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Edit: lolWhoops, its supposed to be Eglantine, not Eglintine.

Wha-wahhwahaaat is this? Thats that your thinking right?

Well, I'm thinking about animating the Guardians of Ga'Hoole series...what do you guys think? I'm an amateur at animating but I'm a fast learner and have been considering doing this for a while.
It would have one episode per chapter, so about 27 or more episodes per book (I'm only focusing on the first book right now though, lets not get ahead of our selves X3), and If I continue with it, exactly 15 'seasons', one per book. Yikes. But It should be fun and make could practice.
And that doesn't mean I've dropped my comic either, mind you, thats still my main 'project', and I'm so close to picking it back up again I can taste it...its wild cherry flavored.

Mkay, haha, so there's a badly drawn unfinished picture of a barn owl near the end because the file had an error for some reason and wouldn't let me continue working on it, it wouldn't open for me, but luckly I had this file. I started another new one to finish, I'll upload that after I'm done with this.

This obviously shows Soren and his sibs, Eglintine and Kludd. The picture of them together is supposed to be how they'll look in the begining, like before Soren is pushed from the nest. Any suggestions please???

All drawn in sloppily flash since I will (hopefully) be animating this with flash. I won't be using voices, but I will be using music, and maybe even some owl vocals if I am able, I'm still not that good with adding sound to animations.

Any critique, suggestions, tips, or tricks concerning the designs or flash 100% welcome!

(C) art - Me
(C) Characters, Soren, Kludd, Eglintine, Guardians of Ga'Hoole- Kathryn Lasky
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I wonder when we, collectively, will give up designing characters to "look" evil. 

I can't help but feel that it is related to valuing people for outer beauty, and possibly racism. 

/sorry for sort of unrelated rambling
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2016  Student General Artist
I cant help but feel it is related otherwise what reason would you have to post on this at all if not to make a discreet comment on my work.

First of all these designs are ancient, I have newer (but still old) designs in my gallery. Secondly, I didn't design any of them to look "evil", I designed them to look like individuals of their species, and to reflect their personality and values outwardly.

While designing something as "evil" is a narrow way of describing it, it is a very important element in visual story telling. Sometimes bias comes into play in designs but it has less to do with our collective opinions on outer beauty than it does of communicating something important through art. It depends on what you want to say using your designs.

You've made a generalized comment on something much broader than you might realize. It is not usually a good thing if you cant differentiate your antagonist from your protagonist unless that relates to the statement you are trying to make.
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"I designed them to look like individuals of their species, and to reflect their personality and values outwardly."

The difference being? 

Kludd is evil, and he comes across as evil visually. It's not meant to knock your work- it's just a convention that I take issue with. You say it's "an important element," but it's only important if we continue to give it importance (just like any other symbolism).

I know exactly how broad it is. If you can't tell a character's alignment from their actions and words, then something is wrong, imho. 

Another convention of storytelling I don't like:

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Who writes happy stories where everyone is mature and has calm conversations about anything and everything? . . . Truth is stranger than fiction . . . I’ve wanted to devise my own curriculums, because . . . well, shouldn’t stories and games be both to entertain and teach and inspire? Humans have deemed the central purpose of literature, a story, to be conflict. The four types. Man against Man. Man against Society. Man against Nature. Man against Self. But, what about man enjoying conversing with his fellow man? Man enjoying studying his own and other societies? Man enjoying and savoring nature? Man enjoying his own wonderfully, intricately, divinely, mysteriously bestowed mind? Learning new things? So why is it different for stories? They teach that it is the conflict that matters. Pain. It supposedly makes it more interesting for readers." 


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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2016  Student General Artist
I think you are over reacting to a small detail, and I don't think you bothered to look at my new character designs. You are making this statement on a drawing I did when I was 14. 

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As you can see the design is more subtle, but even if I'm referring to the old design, no, I didn't design him as evil. I designed him using the colors of both of his parents, which I designed in an updated version of his file, and added one additional color as well as more features to make him an individual.
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Those were - the reddish brown color around his face and eyes, and making his face scruffy. I chose those colors to signal he is different from Soren but come from the same parents. 

I did not design him to be evil. I designed him to look unique and a member of his family, and a bit grumpy - because that is his personality. If you are telling me that giving him a reddish hue and making him look grumpy is wrong, then I'm at a loss. 

You are defining his features as evil because you already KNOW he is evil. Had you not known he was evil, would you still make that same accusation? I find that extremely narrow minded and hypocritical. The only importance is the one you are giving by claiming he looks evil. YOU are choosing to decide that he looks evil so YOU are the one judging by appearances and placing an importance on outer beauty.

By that logic any character that looks "evil" automatically is "evil". So I guess Batman isn't a superhero because he is dark and looks mean. That would mean any character that looks "good" is automatically "good", right? Your logic is flawed. Good characters can look bad and bad characters can look good, and sometimes they fall into a grey area because good and evil, and appearances, are not as black and white. 

But first impressions are important and natural. Its what draws interest and protects us using our first instinct, but they can be wrong, which allows the element of surprise and a lesson in not judging a book by its cover. The fun is figuring out if your first guess is right. Which is a lesson we all learn and continue to learn as we grow up because none of us are free from prejudice even if we like to think so. 

A character design is supposed to clue you in to what that character is like and give you hints to their history. That is why it is a part of story telling. You are supposed to learn something (weather right or wrong) by looking at them. 

If you think something is evil by the way it looks, that is your flaw. 

I suggest you read a little on the fundamentals of character design before you critique someones choice of giving an owlet a moody face. 
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Again, I don't think it was your work in particular that set off that thought. I've been doing a lot of deep thinking about storytelling anyway. It just happened to be vaguely related. Hence why I apologized for randomly rambling. 

Was your intention to make him less evil looking already? If so, that coincidence in itself is fascinating. 

I'm pretty sure he would come off as evil regardless, with the narrowed eyes and reddish tint. But . . . again . . . that's not a strike against you since pretty much everyone adheres to designing characters like that. (A character design is supposed to clue you in to what that character is like and give you hints to their history. That is why it is a part of story telling. You are supposed to learn something (weather right or wrong) by looking at them.) That's storytelling and character design as we currently accept it. Your third and second to last statements seem to contradict one another. :/

"Good characters can look bad and bad characters can look good" But it's most often the reverse. Batman is the exception that proves the rule. 
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2016  Student General Artist
I accept your apology but it may be a good idea to find more appropriate places to make comments regarding your thoughts on design and story so you don't accidentally rub someone the wrong way. 

I wasn't TRYING To make him less EVIL I just wanted to improve his design. I didn't MAKE him look EVIL to begin with. I improved my idea and decided I wanted to change his design, that is all. How EVIL he looked was never in the equation. By saying my intention had anything do to with EVIL is COMPLETELY disregarding what I previously said, and rude. 

I am not contradicting myself, I'm trying to explain that it is two sides of the same coin. First impressions and truth. You make an assumption and them learn about it by investigating the story and character. Weather or not your first impression was right or not is the discovery. By your way of thinking, you think you already know whether or not a character is evil or good by they way they appear. 

EVIL is not apart of my or many peoples creative process. That is a label you have placed on the design due to what you consider to "look" evil. It is a very basic way to judge a character. 

I have no idea how else to design a character than by making them match there character and story and any other way would probably give off the wrong idea, have them look completely out of place, or make no sense. 

If you want to make a story where your first impressions of a character are misleading, then be my guest. That can be done correctly. But to say its the only way, that designing based on the characters personality, history, values, and environment is wrong, then that is unacceptable. There is no ONE RIGHT WAY. There are multiple. And it is not any kind of statement on outer beauty. If you are judging a character to be EVIL by their appearance, YOU are the one judging based on appearances and YOU are the one who needs to stop contradicting yourself. 
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StardustDragon258 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I say
go for the animation, i think it is an excelent idea!!! 
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Student General Artist
I would love too, however this is rather old and I don't know if I'll be able.
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StardustDragon258 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I think you would do just fine! (If you post it on youtube i think you would get a ton of views! )
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Tyto-Alba11704 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Who was the last animation of????? BTW: I love your idea!!!!! <3






~Selene
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Student General Artist
Thanks! That was Noctus, Soren's father. The file crashed before I finished. But there's another character design thing like this I made that has his design in it.
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Tyto-Alba11704 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
oooooooh........cool.




~Selene



P.S. Have you read the book series? If you haven't, I totally recommend it!
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aztecmoose Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012
This is an amazing idea! Good luck with it!
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you!
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King-Coryn101 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Student General Artist
i'm working on book 1 of the ga'hoole series
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Student General Artist
Awesome
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Penguinator24 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Looks great!
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Student General Artist
Thanks!
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Penguinator24 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem!
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BirdyCrossing Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2012
I actually really love how simple their designs are~!
Finally, someone who didn't include Kludd's silly little mowhawk thing haha
Will you still be working on this project? I'd really love to see how it would turn out!
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you!
Haha, yep XD The only hint of a mowhawk Kludd has with my design is his downy tuft on top of his head, but that'll shed out ;D
I hope to continue this, but so far I only have the opening theme song complete. I still plan on completing at least the first episode/chapter, but it might not happen (soon anyway).

You can see the opening here - [link]
:)
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BirdyCrossing Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012
It looks great so far~!
I'd really like to see how the first episode will turn out (:
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you very much! Well, keep on the look out for more :aww: I'm not giving up yet, and if I do work on it I'll definitely post little sneak peak bits of animation here and there.
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Cykatrix Featured By Owner May 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I really love your idea, and I think you should continue on with your plan! I like your owl drawing style and am really looking forward to this! :D
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner May 29, 2012  Student General Artist
Thanks! Hopefully I will get around to actually doing this, I'm glad I have your support :)
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Lysonbb Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Had that same idea.
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Student General Artist
You should go for it :)
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Lysonbb Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well...
I do have an animating program (However cruddy it is).
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kittydon91 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
that is awesome.
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you.
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kittydon91 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
np
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realtria Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
your art is so clean~! if that makes sense =)
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Student General Artist
Haha, yes it does, thanks!
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realtria Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
welcome! =) any time
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NamelessOkami Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
YES! YES, YES! I looked to see if there was any decent Ga'Hoole flash, and this looks like it would be an awesome one!
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2011  Student General Artist
Thank you!
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NamelessOkami Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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LoveEternal891 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2011   General Artist
DO IT! They are adorable! <3
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2011  Student General Artist
I am :D
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LoveEternal891 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2011   General Artist
Awesome.
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WordforWord Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2011
:D this looks even more promising than gylfie walking (;
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Gylfie01 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011
What's that supposed to mean?
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WordforWord Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
another animation...
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2011  Student General Artist
Haha thanks :D
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paulinaghost Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011
This is a great idea. =)
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x-EBee-x Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2011  Student General Artist
Thank you :D
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paulinaghost Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2011
your welcomed. =)
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coolguy800 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2011
in got it from here [link]
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coolguy800 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2011
metalbeak strikes now, they will overrun the great gahoole tree in a single night.

- The time is at hand! boren's hundreds will face yours tens of thousands! And will all ruin, your ancient oppressor lies vanquished, then shall we fly eastward, and sweep all of owl kingdoms beneath our feet! We cannot be defeated!
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coolguy800 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2011
i maybe make lord of the rings animated and Guardians of Ga'Hoole animated
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